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Jay Wadsworth on failure to control combative subjects: ‘The number 1 problem is training’

“Officers should have an hour of hands-on training a week.”

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A police bodycam video goes viral that shows an officer or two wrestling with a resisting subject without much success. Then a shot is fired – or some other force causes extensive injury to the subject. How can we prevent this from happening?

In this episode of Policing Matters, host Jim Dudley speaks with Jay Wadsworth – a veteran LEO, 2nd degree black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and lead instructor for Effective Fitness Combatives (EFC) about the current state of defensive tactics training for police. Jim and Jay discuss police training deficits, officer confidence, the carotid restraint technique and much more.

Top quotes from this episode

Unfortunately we are so belt and tool-dependent. Our belief is you should be verbal de-escalation and hands-on control dependent and then your belt and tools assist you when you have to escalate up.”

The thing we do on a daily basis in this country is we put our hands on people to protect others. We just don’t have those skills to do that and that is the biggest problem.”

We are not building technicians. We want to make problem-solvers.”


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Jay Wadsworth is a 20-year police veteran, use-of-force expert and defensive tactics instructor.

About our guest

Jay Wadsworth is a 20-year police veteran, use-of-force expert and defensive tactics instructor with a unique education, personal work history and set of skills. He is a trained mixed-martial artist with a 2nd degree black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. In 2011, he became certified as a defensive tactics instructor through the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) and was responsible for leading his department’s defensive training. As a DCJS instructor, he developed a new mandatory curriculum for defensive tactics instructors and basic recruits. He is director of combatives and lead instructor for Effective Fitness Combatives (EFC), whose team of instructors has over 250+ years of combined experience in law enforcement, Jiu-Jitsu, wrestling and MMA.

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